A roof replacement is a capital improvement, as it involves replacing the current roof and adding new features. Maintenance refers to routine actions aimed at improving a unit of property, while capital improvements modify the home’s cost basis, which is what the government considers the original amount paid for the house. A higher cost basis can decrease the amount owed.
When making a home improvement, such as installing central air conditioning or replacing the roof, you cannot deduct the cost in the year you spend the money. However, if you keep track of those expenses, they may be eligible for deductions.
The IRS defines a capital improvement as an improvement that adds to the value of your home, prolongs its useful life, or adapts your home to new technology. A roof nearing the end of its life span or is leaking will decrease your home value and is worth replacing. Replacing a roof or an appliance is simply maintenance, but upgrading a feature can be considered a capital improvement.
Replacing a roof or an appliance is considered a capital improvement, but the accounting works out differently. When you first replace the roof, you credit your assets by the amount of the improvement, but this asset depreciates. Customers who decided to replace their home’s roof before selling saw a return on investment of around 63% on average.
A roof replacement is not only a major home improvement step but also a significant investment. Installing a new roof will increase the value of the home and can even help it move faster on the market compared to homes that need major work.
📹 What to Expect When Changing Your Roof
It’s roof renovation day! It’s a lot of really hard work and to be honest with you, I’m getting to be that age where if I fell off a roof now …
Should I have a new roof?
Roofs typically last 20-25 years, and if they are nearing this age or in poor condition, it may be time for a replacement. Cracks and holes on flat roofs, especially in felt roofs, can lead to leaks and water damage, often requiring a new roof. Damaged or missing tiles/slates can also cause leaks and water damage, often requiring a full roof replacement. Sagging flat roofs due to water damage or structural issues indicate compromised roof integrity and likely require replacement.
Visible gaps through roof boards suggest significant damage, signaling the need for urgent repair or replacement. It is recommended to conduct a thorough roof inspection during the summer to determine if a replacement roof is needed. If a leak or cracking is noticed, detailed checks should be carried out as soon as possible to determine if an entirely new roof is required.
Does a new roof settle?
Wavy or raised roof shingles may not be the best option, but it’s best to wait for warmer days. New roof shingles should lay flat after being in the sun, which may take one or two weeks. If they don’t flatten after a month, inspect your roof for misshapen shingles. Poorly transported or packaged shingles can take on a misshapen or distorted shape. After installation, these shingles remain unflattened or creased, potentially leading to curling or buckling due to manufacturing defects. Inconsistencies in material composition, size, and shape can affect the shingle’s conformity to the roof.
How much damage does a roof need to be replaced?
A totaled roof is a condition where the entire roof is damaged, but insurance companies use guidelines to determine if the entire roof needs replacement. These guidelines typically involve “test squares” on each side of a roof slope, with a set amount of damage required in each square. The amount of damage varies between companies and can range from 6 to 12 squares.
Homeowners insurance covers roof repairs, but it may not always be financially prudent to file a claim if the damage is not enough to be considered a totaled roof. Most homeowners policies have a deductible, which can range from $500 to $1, 000 or even 1 of the home’s value. If the roof is not totaled and repairs cost $1, 300, insurance will cover the repairs, minus the deductible. If the deductible is $1, 000, the insurance company only pays $300.
How important is a roof?
A well-maintained roof is crucial for your home’s safety and insulation, preventing damage from various weather conditions. Regular maintenance, including cleaning gutters, inspecting for signs of damage, and making necessary repairs, can extend the roof’s lifespan and ensure its continued protection. Investing in quality materials and regular inspections can also extend the lifespan of your roof.
To select a reliable roofing company, research the company’s experience, license, insurance, and positive reviews from past customers. They should also offer free estimates to ensure a clear understanding of the project’s cost before beginning. Additionally, ensure the company is familiar with your local building codes and has experience installing the type of roof you need.
In conclusion, investing in a good roof is essential for building a safe and comfortable home. Investing in quality materials, regular inspections, and selecting a reliable roofing contractor can ensure your roof’s longevity and longevity.
How long should a roof last?
The roof of a house is of the utmost importance for protection from the elements. When constructed from durable materials and subject to proper maintenance, a roof can last for decades. The typical lifespan of a roof is approximately 30 years. The cost of a metal roof ranges from $7, 808 to $110, 150, while a tile roof costs between $8, 000 and $23, 000.
Is it worth raising the roof on a house?
Raising a roof can offer numerous benefits, including making an interior space feel larger, increasing storage capacity, adding a second floor, and converting flat ceilings for vaulted ceilings with exposed beams or skylights. Additionally, it can be used to alter the roofline by adding dormers or other features or adjust the roof pitch for functional or aesthetic purposes.
There are several cost-effective methods for raising a roof, including coffered ceilings, partial roof raising, tray ceilings, and vaulted ceilings. Coffered ceilings consist of a series of beams and sunken panels that create a grid, giving the appearance of more space for about $20-30 per square foot. Partial roof raising is possible if the home has additions or sections with separate roofing systems, and even raising the roof over a garage can provide extra storage space.
Tray ceilings are less dramatic but more affordable ways to raise a ceiling by a foot or two in the center of a room, usually costing $2-4 per square foot. Vaulted ceilings can be used if the home has a stick roof and an attic, with cathedral ceilings being the most expensive at about $120-180 per square foot. Other options include rib vaults, groin vaults, and domes, which are in the range of $50-75 per square foot.
How important is the roof of your house?
A roof is essential for a home’s structural protection, insulation, and property value. It supports the entire house, ensuring lighting, plumbing, and interior design cohesion. A well-designed roof should have at least one layer of insulation, maintaining consistent indoor temperatures and reducing HVAC unit output, resulting in low energy bills. A well-maintained roof can also be a factor for potential buyers, so it’s important to have yearly inspections, new entry doors installed, and roof repairs when necessary.
Should I redo my roof?
The age of your roof is a crucial factor in determining when it’s time for replacement. Experts suggest a roof should last about 20 years, but this depends on factors like surface material, climate, and maintenance. Home insurance companies have their own guidelines, so a 15-year-old roof with shingle overlays may not be covered by all insurers. Spot treatments can extend the roof’s lifespan, but there is a point where roof material starts to fail. Waiting to replace a roof after this point increases the risk of water intrusion and other damage to a home. Therefore, it’s essential to consider a new roof sooner rather than later.
Why do people replace roofs?
Roof replacement is crucial for older suburbs, as many roofs are at risk of decay and rust. Signs of roof damage include leaks, deteriorating appearance, and soft, brittle tiles. A decaying roof can lead to costly repairs and compromise the safety of your home, especially in severe weather conditions. By replacing your roof, you can enhance the curb appeal and value of your home, while also ensuring the safety of your family.
Early signs of roof replacement include leaks or water stains on the ceiling, missing, cracked tiles, an unexplained increase in energy bills, and signs of roof sagging or compromised structure. Five Star Roofing can assess the condition of your roof and determine if replacement, restoration, or repair is necessary to improve the security of your home and the old roof look.
How messy is a roof replacement?
Getting a new roof can be a messy process, especially during the tear-off process. The old roof must be completely removed, causing debris from shingles, nails, underlayment, and other components. A reputable roofer can help make the mess look like controlled chaos. The tear-off process also brings trash from the wrappers of newly installed materials and components. The roofing contractor you hire plays a significant role in shaping the mess. The mess is a result of the old roof being torn off and disposed of, making the process more manageable.
Is the roof the most important part of a house?
A roof is essential for a home’s structural protection, insulation, and property value. It supports the entire house, ensuring lighting, plumbing, and interior design cohesion. A well-designed roof should have at least one layer of insulation, maintaining consistent indoor temperatures and reducing HVAC unit output, resulting in low energy bills. A well-maintained roof can also be a factor for potential buyers, so it’s important to have yearly inspections, new entry doors installed, and roof repairs when necessary.
📹 When Should I Replace My Roof? (From a Roofing Contractor)
When do you actually need to replace your roof vs. just repairing it? Sometimes, you can get away with just a #roofrepair vs.
Thank you so much for this!! Perfect timing!! I’m a single female who knew absolutely nothing about roofing until now. I’m actually going to start the process of finding a company to do my roof hopefully in the spring. This gave me great tips (and I took notes) on what to ask, what to have in the contract and what to expect. So glad I found your website….so helpful to this DIYer. Thanks and keep up the great work!!
WOW Jeff, I usually enjoy your articles on home reno projects, but I have to say this one was way, too inaccurate!! After 35 years in the roof industry, as an inspector, specification writer, and director of sales and marketing for a Toronto area roof contractor, I have to say this article was bery misleading. You start out saying it is a GAF system, then use the name CertainTeed, while all the while, one could see the contractor was installing BPCO products. There was no sign of eave or gable/rake drip edge, the foundation of a roof system. Then, they were placing Ice & Watershield, without peeling the backing off, on top of old underlay (tarpaper). You talked to the contractor about getting down to the wood deck to inspect it, but there was no wood exposed. The synthetic underlay was also applied on top of the old tarpaper. What gives?? I know that if a GAF or CertainTeed system is installed by one of their certified contractors, then the warranty is registered by them, AND the warranty is non pro-rated for 50 years, and can be transferred to one new homeowner in the first 20 years. Yes, just as good as a metal roof!! (Both materials have their place in the industry. I have installed both.) I usually like your enthusiasm, but this time, you spoke over and interrupted the guy from Roofmaster, over and over. This article needs to be removed – or done over properly – before people get the wrong impression. C’mon Man, YOU CAN DO BETTER than this JEFF. Very frustrated and disappointed, Dave
Jeff. 1955 house with false soffets (no airflow) so adding vents does nothing at this point. The roof is a hip type with a gable inside the garage (where they adjusted the attic access after adding furnace venting). Would you recommend adding a couple of power roof vents to maintain some sort of air flow, regular roof vents or something else? I just thought about it with this article so would need to see exactly what venting I currently have.
I’ve roofed for over 30 years and I do believe that your supposed to apply the ice and weather guard directly to the sheathing, plywood! Not over top of the old tar paper. Also, if your not taking the old tar paper off, how are you securing the old deck that will always come lose when tearing off the old shingles?
Question….if I’m putting up a 3 inch crown molding up on my just newly sheetrocked wall. Do I need to technically mud the joint were the wall meets the ceiling????? I only ask because I’m a firm candidate in doing things the right way. I’m also putting up a two inch wide chair railing. I purposely put all my “butt joints centered in the wall were we are installing the chair railing. I also need to know if considering my chair railing is going to be completely covering the butt joint is there any need in mudding the butt joint? I already pre filled the joint so it will be sealed. Is there a down side to not finish mudding the butt joint considering the chair rail will cover it as well???? Thanks ! I also want to give you a huge thank you for all your articles as we have learned so much and our Diy remodeling has gone better than we ever thought it would!!
I really appreciate all the instructional articles you are doing but I strongly suggest you make a supplemental article to this one as critical factors such as drip and rake edges were neither installed nor discussed and no comments either about step or kick out flashing. You are so good in discussing code changes and innovations but a few key points were missed here. Without proper flashing the roofers are going to use a lot of caulking to try to seal roof/wall joints which will never last as you know. These items have to be discussed upfront and can explain pricing differences between some quotes as well.
Love that. They have to put “life and limb on the line instead of using a roof ladder. I would be pissed if I saw a contractor unsupported on my roof even if it was to save an extra few minutes at the start and end of the job. Owner needs to put some basic Health & Safety in place. Safety first guys. No client wants to feel bad if a worker falls off their roof when it can be avoided.
Jeff, I am so glad you focused on the ugly realities of the shingle warranty. When is 50 years not really 50 years etc? In regard to metal shingle roofs, the installation labour component is 3-4 times as high. Each metal shingle is screwed in with 6 screws which takes much more time when compared to a nail gun installing an asphalt shingle. Contractors simply don’t make as much MONEY with steel shingles. They cannot do the whole job in one quick ‘payday’ so they discourage a customer who really wants a long lasting product. Lastly, why is snow sliding off a metal roof a problem? Nobody with a metal roof worries about the weight of snow building up on their roof after a heavy snowstorm or a series of snowfalls. If the grading and drainage around your foundation is wrong, it is wrong regardless of what type of roof you have. Finally, when we drive around in the country we see lots of steel roofs which are far, far older than 50 years. You will never see an asphalt shingle roof attaining an age anywhere close to that.
Great info here. I wish I knew exactly how old our roof was, neighbors say it was probably replaced when they all got new roofs after some hail, which was 2013 or so. When selling, it just said less than 9 years old. I have architectural shingles as well. However, our attic up until last month had poor insulation and air circulation so I finally had that fixed up for ice dams. I’m guessing the multiple years of damming have dropped some of that life expectancy (thanks previous owners 🙄). I also am not sure whether they got it done right, judging from everything else I wouldn’t be surprised if they got the cheapest bid so I have no idea how they built it and whether there’s proper components for water diversion. So far visually inspecting the roof, it looks like it’s doing okay, I’ve been up there a few times. Discovered some nutty things though like a vent going up and it wasn’t aligned with the cap so there was gaps where rain could easily just go straight down into the attic 🤬 Replaced the cap on it to mitigate that but jeez.
I just had an AS roof installed on my 1940s house (leaking and ceiling about to fall in!) I didnt see this article before I had it done, but after seeing this, I feel 900% more confident in my decision! $7800 for 18 square on an 8 pitch was not a bad price for what I got! Thank you for your fantastic articles! You’re my go-to for my projects!
I looked at my roof today while up getting caulking and touch up painting done. I need a new roof. This was most helpful. I think doing a roof in late Spring is likely best because the shingles will bond better if they get hot over the summer. I want to put in better roof ventilation as well. My roof exhaust fan quit working and the thing is not bird or squirrel proof anymore. I totally agree – do it all at one time. My biggest issue is do it all at one time vs. start from scratch. I keep noticing shoddy workmanship in my house that I’ve owned for 25 years already. The technology of newer building systems is so much better if built by a person with professional knowledge. I certainly lack the knowledge to hire the right contractor but I’m learning.
This article is perfect as I am going to need to redo my roof in the next few years. I’m wondering though how much of this weather proofing applies to a contract in Phoenix, Arizona though. Are there other factors to consider in places that rarely get to freezing temperatures but are regularly over 100 degrees with little wind or rain throughout the year?
6:20 There’s not a company on planet earth that will do as good or a better ‘system’ for $12,000 than the company who charges $20,000 for the same ‘system.’ So that’s just not true. You must live in a really cheap roofing area if the range for a good, complete job, including new wood, is $7,000 to $12,000 depending on the pitch of the roof.
Since the email is down, a quick question: I am looking to add a door from the house to the garage, so an exterior wall of the house (garage was added a little later I believe). From being in the attic, I know the attic joists run parallel to that particular wall. Am I still looking at some sort of support requirement due to weight bearing or is this not weight bearing specifically because this is a West wall and the rafters are sitting on the North and South walls?
Do not buy a flat roof! I’ve work on several jobs involving leaks in a flat roof and they are a pain in the ass. Biggest problem is the difficulty in locating a leak, that water can travel the whole roof system (after finding a penetration point) until it finds a weak point which could be many yards/meters away and now you have an entire roof to tear out.
Not sure how different things are in Canada, but for the US I went with Certainteed after quite a bit of research. They have a very high quality shingle (I was looking for hail-resistant class 4), and if the installer has the correct certifications their warranty is NON pro-rated and includes labor and disposal.
With all the work you say to do at the end, replacing everything, why not just build or buy a new house? Is it cause your website wouldn’t get as many views? Views = $$$. So much for just ‘making a phone call.’ Shopping for the right contractor can take weeks or months, depending on how much time you have to put into it each week. Getting the right one on the first phone call is extremely rare. Then multiply all that time and phone work and meeting with people by the number of projects you’re telling people to do. Not everyone has time for another part-time job.
Love your show! I brought a side by side duplex 9 yrs ago. Today I had the roof looked at to get info of what kind of shape its in. Two different companies said its in good shape. But I can get Armorflex Roof Resin applied to protect the roof and get a 15 to 20 yrs warranty with it. My property is 2400 sqft and the cost of the resin to be applied is around 5k. A new roof will be 10 to 15k. What are your thoughts on resin applied to a roof to protect it? Is it worth the money? My roof has a lower pitch than your house.
Gosh darn, where are you getting those outrageous quotes from. I just had my whole high pitch roof done by a 8 man crew with all the extras using Owens Corning Duration architectural. 2600 sq ft ranch. $4000. I’m in Augusta GA . Maybe it helps that I’m in one of the lowest cost of living areas in the country
Hi Jeff. I don’t know how to contact you otherwise so I’m just commenting here. I own a Condo in Toronto, one of those old pour concrete big apartment-style condos. All the walls are 2 inches poured concrete. Can you do a article on dealing with concrete walls and what I should do to properly renovate when I don’t have studs. Thank you.
I don’t quite understand why the old tar paper didn’t get removed considering they used a better synthetic underlayment anyways but I’m not a pro roofer so must be a reason…? Regardless, I’m in the process of re-doing my 9/12 pitched roof and with 3 layers of asphalt there is absolutely zero chance I could save the old tar paper.
Hi Jeff, do you have recommendation on remove moss from roof and moss prevention after cleaning? I live in the soggy PNW 🙁 Do you recommend kill moss with bleach, or Zinc powder? Is this a job that I should hire people to do or utilize my teenager boys. We have a single level house so the roof is not high or steep. Thanks
3 days?! If my crew took 3 days to do a house this small they would be kicking rocks. You have to take off all the felt to inspect the decking. You never want to lay ice and water over tar paper and you need to take the backing off. There needs to be more than 4 750 vents on a roof that size. You need proper ventilation.
Thanks for sharing, your articles are very helpful! I’m wondering how did you ventilate your mansard roof? I live in Northern qc, my house looks a lot like yours. I need to address my ice dams issues, I’m thinking about doing it from the inside. But I recently saw that I could insulate over the existing roof sheating..what method would you prefer?
i have an 8/12 roof and that is too steep for me to diy. i think that i could have handled a 4/12 pitch, but 8/12 was too much. i would be spending so much time worrying about my steadiness on the roof and trying to deal with occasional disorientation due to the roof pitch, that it would be a major distraction from the task at hand. as this article says, sometimes it is best to know your limits.
I am confused with the sequence in article. You first show ice and water shield and then shingles. Then it suddenly goes to the synthetic underlayment making it look like you are putting that on top of Shingles !! So now I am not sure if the sequence is ice and water shield underlayment 3 feet from eaves and then synthetic underlayment over entire roof and then shingles ?
Your Roofers are hacks. They should use Scaffolding, Do do more damage Wearing ropes walking on the shingles. All the twisting and turning. With scaffolding they could throw the shingles directly in the trailer. Professional roofers use their own trailers not dumpster. Look at how much extra work that is because of where the dumpsters at. It would take me hours To tell you all the mistakes. You’re just excited you’re hired cheapest roofers. Like the guy said it’s imperative to strip your whole roof inspector the deck? However they just installed the icewater Shield Over top of the tar paper. You should always install synthetic overtop the ice water shield. Is the ice water shield melts to the Shingles.
Hi Jeff. I have a question about mold in my attic. About a quarter of the attic has black spots. My question if I can eradicate the mold myself with cleaning solutions, painting with mold killing primer etc. or is this one of those things that I should leave to the professionals? Any thoughts would be very helpful because we are getting quoted at 2k to clean the mold
Jeff mentions upkeep costs. So true. There are some good looking houses in my neighborhood that would be really hard to roof. Lots of valleys, strange angles and high pitches. The last estimate for our simple 1600sf ranch with a 8/12 pitch was $5700 (Alabama). Back when we bought our house I insisted on a smaller, simpler house with a basement and a brick finish to my wife’s annoyance. She’s finally coming around as we have gotten older.
Did my own tile roof 20ys ago, but paid for tile loading and a crew 1k to do continuous hotmop on a 43lb paper with 105 lb premium then tile, shd last 60+ yrs. Today they put garbage 1 layer 50lb junk under tile. This 25k roof cost me 4k in materials in 2000. Doing it yourself or a portion can really save and you can put much better materials, example a peel and stick self sealing under this shingle with a genie lift might be doable and still cheaper in the end?
Some estimates are freaking ridiculous. I needed 25 square replaced with 2 layer tear off & redeck. I had a steep one too. The craziest wanted $8K JUST for the redeck! Even using premium plywood that’s a hell of a markup. Then they wanted $28K for archectural which I could buy all materials at less than $3K at retail prices. Again crazy labor markup. Many middle quotes were $20K. The $12K it ended up costing me was fair & well done.
After a disasterous experience with letting some rookie replace my roof….will never make that mistakes again! Always hire a professional! Ended up having to have the entire roof removed and redone! Let the pro’s handle it. Now, Jeff…what is the color paint you used in your house where you are standing? I love it and have been looking for that perfect bluish color!
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Its not that hard if you do it properly. Shoukd have had a row of planks along whole bottom and a row half way up if you want., makes for easy walking and holds tools and garbage. Roofed for 10 years. Most roofers are sloppy and hacks. Judging from the little I saw I would not want them doing my roof.
What a sham. Asphalt/Fiberglass roof is a poor people’s roof. It costs you more in the long run to replace those sorts of shingles than it does to install a steel, copper, shake, or tile roof. Anymore, you could forgo the roofers, rip your roof down to the decking and just paint it with liquid EPDM for thousands of dollars less. (And it will last just as long). No need for valley, ridge, hip end ridge. You could use existing flashing and just paint over it. The home in the article could have been re-roofed for about $2000 – $3000 with a paint on roof. Why would you spend $25K for poor people shit? That 50 year roof is going to last maybe 15-20 years provided you don’t have hail, and tornadoes. All of that fiberglass ends up in a landfill… you would be better off with a 40 year wood shake roof that you could burn in your fireplace, or get rid of as craft material on Craigslist. Why would you flip a house with 10 year 3 tab? Only an asshole would do that.
Woke up to shingles blown off the roof this morning (Georgia), not too bad of a storm yesterday, so curious about the condition of the deck. Great article timing! This helps at least understand the terminology for when we get someone out to inspect the roof and get estimates to repair/replace. Its a 10yo roof, but looks in great condition. Bought the house 1.5years ago and roof inspection came back really solid. Was hoping to get at least 2-5 years out of the roof, but I guess we’ll see whether replacing or repairing is best.
Thank you, thank you & thank you. I was hoping you would do a roof article and here it is. I have to replace shingles this coming spring and all the information I can get, the better. I learned a lot from the article and will re-watch and take notes so I will have them at hand when I interview & get quotes when the time comes. I really appreciate all the articles you do, you explain things so it makes sense and we can save money & time. Thank you again.
Why not have a clay or composite tiled roof? I doubt that material will last even 10 years with the weather extremes you have, despite the claims. There are many lightweight composite tiles which would last longer and be more aesthetically pleasing. I know Canada has plenty of lumber, which makes it cheaper than in the UK, but you appear to resist using bricks and mortar, and in this case, tiles, which is far less maintenance long-term than timber-frame/shingle roof. Hell, even the Three Pigs learned the hard way that houses built out of bricks stand the test of time!
Your giving roofers a bad name.😬 Its really not like their trying to rip people off, there’s not a fortune in roofing. Most quotes are very similar..the cost are basically the same for most companies(but Not all of course)..change ALL metal flashings if possible, its all about quality when choosing a roofing company. Most counties have roofing codes; check the codes and make sure they match your contract. Tar is better than “most” synthetic underlayments- imho Also make sure the roofing company you choose follows manufacture directions or the warranty is void…very important!
Didn’t see it asked, but if they were stripping of the old roof, why didn’t they do it all? I noticed at the 3:10 spot as they started installing he membrane, that they were installing it over old shingles. I’ve always been told you can cover an initial layer, but they took the time to strip off the top layer, why not give you that extra protection by getting “all” of the old stuff off.
The guys that did my roof 20 years ago glued every shingle down. Not the corner tabs… the entire shingle. Every one. We get pretty decent winds here on PEI and have never had a shingle lift or crack. Got 20 years out ofbthose shingles so far and while they dont look new they look like they have a lot of life left in them. Any reason why NOT to glue them all down?
Finding a roofing professional is hard. Most of the time they screw up the flashing, ridge vents and will do silly things like on your roof..where they didn’t remove the paper before putting down the snow and ice shield. They will also screw up the flashing on the vents and chimney. Roofing has such a low barrier to entry and low cost to get into, that your seasonal hacks get into it and then out of it. Warranty? Try finding a roofing company in 10 years that did your roof. Warranty is a joke.
U admitted to not being update on roofing and then kept talking instead of letting the guy that knows about roofing talk….. sometimes u talk to much and repeat yourself but you doing it while having a conversation with a expert in a field ur not very knowledgeable in is just to annoying, I’ve lost some respect for you. just take the article down…